Yinhe Jupiter 3 Amazing Rubber

[SlowPower]

I ordered a sheet a week ago and cant wait testing it on my homemade Cybershape...

 

[TensorBackhand]

what hardness did you find the best for you?

I would recommend 39d or 40d. 41d isnt bad, but plays closer to regular Chinese rubber.

 

[h3llary]

I would recommend 39d or 40d. 41d isnt bad, but plays closer to regular Chinese rubber.

I don't want necessarily super hard rubber. I have big dipper 38 currently on v14 pro and it is just fine, except long and high arc. If the arc was lower and everything else was the same, that would be perfect for me. Will Jupiter 3 39 do the job?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I don't want necessarily super hard rubber. I have big dipper 38 currently on v14 pro and it is just fine, except long and high arc. If the arc was lower and everything else was the same, that would be perfect for me. Will Jupiter 3 39 do the job?

Certainly J3 39 is fast, very grippy, spinny, and not super hard. Compared to H3, it has a lower arc. But I'm not sure if the arc is lower or higher than BD. But in general, J3 has a slightly lower arc than H3, but higher than B2.

 

[Choosikick]

I don't want necessarily super hard rubber. I have big dipper 38 currently on v14 pro and it is just fine, except long and high arc. If the arc was lower and everything else was the same, that would be perfect for me. Will Jupiter 3 39 do the job?

Jupiter3 39 with a booster can, but can you handle it? Jupiter is faster than Big Dipper, but topsheet is harder and therefore it is more difficult to get strong rotation. Big dipper is softer, slower, more spin. To my taste, the Big Dipper works better on a fast blade with external carbon and koto, such as yours, than the Jupiter.

 

[Choosikick]

I ordered a sheet a week ago and cant wait testing it on my homemade Cybershape...

I also have a homemade Cybershape. I'm currently playing this with long pimples on my backhand. If you use hard maximum rubbers, the balance is greatly shifted towards the head of the racket. This is due to the increased area and shape of the Cybershape. The racket turns out to be powerful at impact, like a hammer, but clumsy - making a banana or chiquita is very difficult. A possible solution is to use lighter and therefore softer rubber. I put the pimples on and I really like it - a lot of control, very clear ball feel not comparable to standard shaped blades. There's something in this...

 

[SlowPower]

So I received the J3 38° last week.
Played a short session with the robot on Sunday.
Blade is a selfmade 7ply allwood cybershape around 90g.
Though I have short pimples on the Backhand the blade is very heavy (even 2-3g plus compared to the D09c in max).
I realised a lower trajectory and long+ low arc compared to K3 and D09c (I didnt like the D09c that much). At first balls went into the net as i had to adjust quite a bit. I compared to another blade with Rasanter C48 and this was much easier for me with a higher shorter arc.
But my findings in the past where often not to judge a rubber/ blade by just playing vs the robot.

So yesterday i had a 2h regular training session and overall I liked it a lot more then on first contact. Also I know some chinese rubbers need a few hours before they play well so I hope the rubber will develop a little more.
Pushes and short play was easy, on backspin I had some trouble and many balls went into the net- I think this is the main adjustment I have to manage.
But counters worked very well immediately. The grip is very good and over the table you can just go full stroke (blade in a flat angle) to land real rockets on the table.

Some balls from the mid distance and some blocks went short as the rubber is a little slower on small impact than d09c.
I will get my new cybershape with hybrid inner/ outer basalt fiber ready this week and will reglue the J3 and than try it again on friday with the new setup.

Overall I liked it more than the D09c, but my favorite is K3 which for me is a lot more easy to play with. I hope J3 will get a little more lively over the time and maybe the new basalt blade will give it that extra kick needed for my taste.

I didnt test Bloom Power on the 7 ply cybershape but on other blades it gave me more safety (higher arc) than the J3.

 

[Sims33]

I had a brief moment today to test the Rakza Z. and I have to say, it is quite a bit slower than the Jupiter 3. It is also far less tacky. Seems insane to say that a $15 rubber is better than a $45 ESN rubber, but that may indeed be true.

Michael
How would you rate the Jupiter Asia 3 and Rakza Z against Big Dipper, what would be your 1,2 and 3?
in currently use Rakza Z on FH but have a new sheet of YINHE JA 3 and big dipper waiting for me to try in a few wks after our lge season is finished. I will of course try both over the summer but am interested in your thoughts regarding the move.
cheers!

 

[TensorBackhand]

Michael
How would you rate the Jupiter Asia 3 and Rakza Z against Big Dipper, what would be your 1,2 and 3?
in currently use Rakza Z on FH but have a new sheet of YINHE JA 3 and big dipper waiting for me to try in a few wks after our lge season is finished. I will of course try both over the summer but am interested in your thoughts regarding the move.
cheers!

Take a look here: https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/best-chinese-alternatives-to-d09c-tier-list.31883/
I would put
1 - J3
close #2 - Big Dipper
distant 3 - Rakza Z

 

[Sims33]

Take a look here: https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/best-chinese-alternatives-to-d09c-tier-list.31883/
I would put
1 - J3
close #2 - Big Dipper
distant 3 - Rakza Z

Thanks dude, will have a read on that 👍

 

[Cadoia]

I just want to highlight this Yinhe Jupiter 3 rubber. It's not a rubber that I see get talked about much, but its honestly a really remarkable and great rubber. I recently started using it on my FH in 39 degree, and I'm playing much better with it. It is very much like a hybrid rubber, with a tacky topsheet (tackier than ESN hybrids), and a bouncy fast sponge. I compared it with a Bluegrip C2, and I felt the speed was very similar but the Jupiter had more spin and power. Jupiter also seemed to have a higher arc. The rubber doesn't need to be boosted at all, its naturally very bouncy.

This is a very powerful rubber with very fast basic drive speed as well. It's very different from H3, as it doesn't quite get the same level of spin. It doesn't have the feeling of holding the ball on the rubber and getting unlimited amounts of spin the way H3 does. But the loop is very deadly, as the combination of speed and spin can really overwhelm the opponent. Opening loops feel quite effortless and natural. The good arc combined with the inherent bounciness makes opening loops easy. Also, I never knew I was so good at flicking until I switched to this rubber. I can flick very consistently and easily with this rubber. The bounciness and lack of spin sensitivity seems to make it good at flicks and also blocks.

The area where the Jupiter 3 is less ideal is serve and short game. Compared to H3, its just much more bouncy. At times my serve can go long or high, and same with pushes. I'm sure over time you can get used to it, but its just one natural consequence of having a bouncy sponge.

I'm so impressed by this rubber that next time I want to try it in 41 degree sponge. Hopefully its even more powerful, and also 41 degree sponge probably leaves some margin for boosting down to 40 or 39 hardness.

I really like this rubber too for same reasons you described. To me, its better than Big Dipper, loki arthur china. might be same or better than DHS GA8 in how it feels. And that says a lot. I do however still love my Hybrid K3 more as it has much more to offer. But hey, not bad for 12$ sheet.